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Old Fool
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11/16/2005
07:33:38

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Oh Yeah, with the 1.8 Ratio Rockers ????????? How close did it clay out, how much extra meat was fly cut out of the pistons? Are they domed or flat? And did they already have the recesses to start with? And what is your quench area? Did you use a thicker gasket for Nitrous aplication, or use the .039 one? And was the oil Journals reworked for the 500+ horsepower delivery?

And answers to the first round of questions in my 1st post? I have time, I can wait.

Or do you have a clue what is in your Motor? Are you a credit card cowboy that wants to hang out with the big boys, but don't know how to do anything yourself.

Good Luck, Later.



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11/16/2005
08:46:20

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see.....I was right.



N56629
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11/16/2005
10:39:32

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Old Fool, in another forum he claims that it is "a well known" shop.



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11/16/2005
11:54:40

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wheres the supertruck finals and when is it...count me in. You called me a cowboy...don't ever call me a fuking cowboy



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11/16/2005
12:59:44

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No cowboy!?!?!....

How about "Butt Pirate"?



N56629
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11/16/2005
13:30:30

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"That one stupied fuking website [dodgedakotas.com] i was talking about...you guys are too...damn. I came here to get away from some of you guys. My story changed because i figure there so dum why not say dum things...lol...you know...lol...try to be a little smarta$$. I have my integra on 6 pounds of boost and it does 11 flat in the 1000. Thoughs asking simple questions and not wanting to jump my a$$. The conversion and my truck was $500 thats pulling the motor out and sticking the new one in...and yes i go there everyday to see what there doing and findout more about dodges...this is my first one and its strictly a show truck. It will not be raced alot and im not using the nitrous. I had a $1500 motor oil pan to carb built in the same year truck and spanked my buddie that had a stroked motor with more than twice that in the bottom end. Its not how much money you have in the motor."---Midnightdak [From DakotaUSA.com]



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11/16/2005
14:10:26

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interesting



RyanH
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11/16/2005
15:41:57

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"Oh Yeah, with the 1.8 Ratio Rockers ????????? How close did it clay out, how much extra meat was fly cut out of the pistons? Are they domed or flat? And did they already have the recesses to start with? And what is your quench area? Did you use a thicker gasket for Nitrous aplication, or use the .039 one? And was the oil Journals reworked for the 500+ horsepower delivery?"

OldFool, how long have you been working on engines? And, what does all that mean? Clay out? Quench area? Oil Journals reworked? Honestly, if you could tell me what that means. I've been trying to learn as much as I can about stuff like this so I can build my own 408. Oh, and what is the R3 block? Thanks



intensedak39
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11/16/2005
16:08:54

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clay out - he's referring to putting clay on top of a piston, assembling the head and valve train and rotating the crank. The valve will leave an imprint in the clay and you can check your piston to valve clearance.

Quench area - the space between the piston and the flat surface of a closed chamber head. You need to maintain a certain amount of quench, but too much, and you can get hot spots on the combustion chambers... i.e. put a set of 915 closed chamber heads on a stock deck height 400 with the piston .095 in the hole, and you'll have a knock that no camshaft or timing will be able to get rid of

oil journals - not too sure what he means by that on a small block mopar... but usually on a chevy, they over oil the rockers and you can put different kinds of restrictors in to keep most of the oil pressure on the mains. He could also mean opening up the galleys a little or fitting the block with a bigger pickup.


the R3 block is mopar's race small block.



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11/17/2005
02:05:01

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Yep.. I'd have to call B.S on this guy.. Too bad people dont have more do to with their time.. Pity.. haha... I'm trying to build a 408 and I dont think I'd trust any SHOP to do it for me.. I know shops just want their money and dont take care in their work.. ok, MOST shops.. The ones around me anyways.. thats all I can say.. But I'm sure there are shops that do take care in their work.. ah, im babbling...

-Jason



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11/17/2005
03:45:27

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Old Fool "I'll race you shot for shot, and then when one comes apart I'll load you up and take you home."
ROFLMAO
That sounds like the big money racers I know.
that know their stuff is all good btw



midnightdak
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11/17/2005
09:16:42

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JASON...your so smart you got...where do you go to school little boy.I'm working 12 hours a day 6 and 7 days a week...you tell me when i have time to build a motor...with me knowing next to nothing about dodges...huh...tell me. Thought these sites where to help people out but,come to find out its just a bunch of little kiddies. I'll be over on dakotausa.com talk to me there. That sites getting old too...real quick.



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11/17/2005
09:52:09

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and have a nice life COWBOY. You work 12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, yet you spend most of your free time on here?

I read your post on DakotaUSA.com. You call people stupid...do you have spell check? I'm sorry, I know people say you shouldn't criticize spelling, punctuation or grammar on this website, but when someone is being as obnoxious as midnight, it can't be helped. Someone asks a question and he posts his replies with his little "lol" replies, like the questions are meaningless. He posts something on one site, then comes here and posts something that completely contradicts what he said on the first site. Seems to me somebody wants to flex their muscles when the muscles aren't fully developed, with the exception of the finger muscles for typing.

You asked where Jason went to school. Seems to me Jason actually learned something in school.

Hey N56629 - good detective work. This guy is a fraud.

If it is going to be strictly a show truck per your post on DakotaUSA.com, why are you even talking about nitrous? A 400 shot of nitrous for something that is STRICTLY show?

Midnightdak also posted ***wheres the supertruck finals and when is it...count me in. You called me a cowboy...don't ever call me a fuking cowboy***

Wow! He wants to race a truck that is being built STRICTLY for show? Nice one COWBOY!!




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11/17/2005
10:01:51

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Midnightdak wrote <i>I don't know about the intake but the exhast are i believe 2.05 or 2.08 which ever one is the biggest you can get in a head i know they make 2.05<i>

Then he wrote <i>You don't hand over 12 grand and not know everything...lol...you see...i tell them what i want and they build it<i>

Seems to me he doesn't know everything. What a moron! So he told them "I don't wanna know about the intake so just build it?" You contradict yourself so much that reading your posts are better than going to the comedy club.



N56629
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11/17/2005
10:50:46

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The guy doesnt' know which is bigger, 2.05 or 2.08. He doesn't build the engine or know any of the specifics for two reasons, "with me knowing next to nothing about dodges" and "I'm working 12 hours a day 6 and 7 days a week."

Well you don't need to know much about specific makes to build an engine. Once you know the basics the specifics are not that hard to figure out or find out. As for not having time, that's ok, most professional racers don't have the time or get involved in the actual building their own engines but they sure know a whole lot more about them than you do.

That's ok, this guy is digging himself a deep hole on dakotausa too. He seems to have some credibility with the threads he started on the demise of his 4.7 but it is quickly falling apart because of his basic lack of knowlege. That may be all it is, a lack of knowlege.



Midnightdak
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11/17/2005
13:52:45

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I don’t even know where to start. My brother has been on my websites on my name. I could kill him I don’t know why he thought he had the right. He’s been home sick this week and I guess he didn’t have anything else better to do with his time but make me look dumb. Kids these days I guess have to brag a little bit about their dads and stuff I know I did when I was young. My dad always had the fastest car in town or so I said. The only thing that’s true about this Dakota is that it is being built with a 408. I don’t have any nitrous and if I did it would be like a 100 shot. If you guys want to know anything else you will have to wait because it is still in the shop and will be for about 3 weeks. I can’t explain how he got on dakotausa.com maybe I forgot to sign out. I don’t know but or computer stays on all day. I know when I get on and go to the forums it automatically signs me on and I don’t know how to fix that. I’m sorry for the misunderstanding but I just had to clear this up because in my spare time I like to get help on these sites. I can’t get help with you guys mad at me. If its me I would know enough to put a capital M on my name.



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11/17/2005
13:56:41

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Quick question about the intake on the heads. I know at KRC they have a set of R/T heads with the 2.02 heads and beehive valve springs, or without,and a set of 2.08 heads with beehive springs or without. Which is better between the four if I want just a street truck with good low end torque but still capable of playing and daily driving?



Midnightdak
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11/17/2005
14:00:51

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Could someone please clear this up on dakotausa.com if someone could that would be greatly appreciated, because I’m a member there. I really don’t need anybody mad at me because if I have a question about my Dakota or motor I don’t want a bad answer. I get on these 2 sites to make friends and get help.



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11/17/2005
14:01:47

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But if it automatically signs you in on your computer when you go to forums, why didn't his posts have the capital M on them? Fishy Fishy Fishy. And.....how old is your son?



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11/17/2005
14:11:54

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First you say your brother has been on your websites under this name.

Then you say """Kids these days I guess have to brag a little bit about their dads and stuff I know I did when I was young."""

So which is it...your brother or your son?

Fishy Fishy Fishy



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