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1/11/2005
10:21:24

Subject: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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I have had my truck since last July but all of a sudden since last month the front belt squeals and it has gotten louder since then. This is pretty loud and I can hear it over my loud flowmaster 40 series exhaust.

Is it the belt....b/c I checked it out and the belt is still in great condition. Its only like 2 months old becuase I had to replace it due to water pump failure.

Another question is...could it be that one of my pullies is out of line???

Any suggestions or ideas on what this is or what I can do to stop the noise will be greatly appreciated!!


Thanks!


Mike

1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit

Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph

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1/11/2005
10:27:20

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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yes, check the alignment of the pulleys. it could also be the idler or tensioner pulleys.



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1/11/2005
10:40:39

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Belts will stretch a little over time. You don't say what component this belt drives, but if there's a tension adjustment for it, that's a start. As already stated, pulley alignment could be a factor.



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1/11/2005
17:47:19

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Joe X,

I read you responce and I am failing to see your insight into this matter. It seams as if you dont even have a Dakota from which to pull experience from.

Mike's99,

There are only a few things that your problem can be.

1) Bad belt (perhaps....anything is possable)
2) Belt tensioner (perhaps the most expensive fix of this problem).
3) Pully placement (I dont think this could be possible but you never know)
4) Finally, Pully in an accessory that is slow or binding. The only way to tell is to pull the belt off and check all of the pullies.

Hope this helps.



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1/11/2005
23:20:29

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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ZoSO.
My Dakota does not have the 5.2L engine. My Dakota Service Manual covers all engines EXCEPT the 5.2, so I had no way to check that engine's belt configuration. My experience with drive belts is that when they squeal, it's usually because the belt is not under proper tension. In the case of a serpentine, it's usually a driven component. The 5.2 engine may very well have a serpentine belt, and therefore an automatic tensioning mechanism. I don't know. And because I don't know, the wording of the original post led me to believe there was more than one accessory drive belt, and implied the belt was not serpentine.
Mikes99Dakota stated "the front belt squeals." Because I don't know what accessories the "front belt" drives, I admitted that fact. Also, that belts stretch over time is true.

It was an attempt to help.
Correct me if I'm wrong: I can take it.
But there's no need to be insulting.



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1/12/2005
06:57:05

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Mike.. does it happen even when you accelerate? mine was making some noise, but it was more of a squeek/whine at idle. I very carefully libricated the tensioner pulley and one other pully that it rides on, but isn't powering anything. I just made sure not to get a drop of it on the belt. I cured the noise mine was making, I may be temporarly masking a worn tensioner or other pulley, but it seems to be ok for now.



Mikes99Dakota
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1/12/2005
10:07:38

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Well I sprayed WD-40 on the belt by the tensioner. I dont beleive I need a new tensioner but the belt is probably strectched a little. By spraying the tensioner and getting some on the belt made it completely quiet but after reving the engine in park to see if this method worked....the belt started drying and the squeak got worse.

The belt squealed alot at idle and when I gave it any gas the squeal went completley away.

Now the belt squeaks very little now for some reason and I hardley hear of it anymore.

Guess I will have to wait and see how it does later on down the road??

1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit

Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph

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1/14/2005
03:25:30

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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When your water pump was failing it was probably causing the belt to slip a little and probably glazed the pully. Take a red scotchbrite pad and some soapy water and clean all the pullies and put on a new belt. Never put lube on a belt especially WD-40. Belts and pullies work on the principal of friction and oil reduces friction and will cause your belt to slip. Not to mention petroleum products break down rubber.



Mikes99Dakota
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1/14/2005
10:01:55

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Sounds Like a good idea. I was planning on getting another belt anyway for the reason of what you said. I thought about making sure all my pullies were cleaned and tightened. I need money first the belt is like $30! And IM BROKE....until next friday!

Mike

1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit

Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph

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1/14/2005
19:58:29

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Wow!!! I'm surprised at the type of response you got. I just had the same thing happen to my 99 5.9 and there is a question I have. Did you buy a Dayco belt for it, or did you buy the $19.99 belt, which only has a 3 month warrentee. Reason I ask is because my belt didn't look mad, but when you flipped it inside out you could see little cracks. Also, the $19.99 belt seems to last about 4 months. My recommendation in any event is to go to the parts store, Walmart, etc and pick yourself up a can of BELT DRESSING and spray it on both the inside and outside of the belt while it is running. I put it on the old belt, but it didn't help, but with the new Dayco belt I have't had any problems. By the way, the old belt was a NAPA belt, if that has anything to take into consideration.



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1/15/2005
10:07:32

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Replace your tensioner, it is hanging up and not properly loading the belt.



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1/17/2005
09:50:00

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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yea, it just may be the belt tensioner... the spring gets worn and loose after time. It's not too hard to replace the tensioner, but is a bit expensive. Also if you get the thinner belt, it's good to make sure it is seated on the same groves on each pulley so it will line up right and last longer.

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1/18/2005
16:26:29

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Had the same noisy serpentine belt noise on my 99' 5.2 after only 15,000 miles on a new factory
mopar replacement belt. Replaced with a new Dayco
poly-cog belt from kragen auto. for $46.00. Problem solved and was the easy and fast to replace just be sure to draw out a diagram of your
belt routing before you remove your old one. Just
use a 15 mm socket to releive belt tension and
slip your old one off. Worked for me ! -Mike



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1/19/2005
01:02:02

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Ive got the 5.9L and just replaced my water pump with a new Napa one. the built in pulley on it seems to wobble a bit, not much but alot more than the original mopar waterpump pulley. My serpentine belt is alot louder now after the replacement..could this pulley be the cause? Should i take it out and get another replacement from Napa.

If this is the case i think im through with Napa products!



Mikes99Dakota
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1/19/2005
10:03:28

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Well...I buy the GATES belts and they are 36.99. I havent bought the belt yet because the belt doesnt make the obknoxious noise as much as it did but nonetheless it still make some noise. I checked the pulley and it seems to be very tight. I dont think its the pulley. The belt is then only thing that I think could be it. I will have to wait and see how it does when I replace the belt.

Mike

1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit

Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph

Mike D.
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1/19/2005
13:18:56

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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The gates belt should work just fine, but if you
compare it side by side with the "Dayco Poly-cog"
I think you'll see the poly-cog is a much better
made belt and has cog's and cooling grooves designed in the belt to keep it from slipping and
running cool which results in a longer lasting
belt. Pop for the extra $10.00 you won't be
disapointed ! -Mike


99' Sport 4X4 EXC. 5.2 AUTO.
Homemade Ram-Air/cold air 4" intake.
K N Drop in filter.
MSD Blaster coil.
TBS set to .76 volts.
Relocated IAS.
3923's plugs.
Black Magic 150 Fan.
5-30 Mobil 1 / Napa spin-flow filter.
Magna-Flow 3" Straight Thru Single side dump exhaust.
31.5 x 10.50 Pro-comp All terrain's on American
Eagle one peice alluminun alloy's.




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1/21/2005
09:01:00

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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you r all dumb**ses



Mikes99Dakota
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1/21/2005
09:57:14

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Where can I pick up a belt like this....my locl auto parts store??

If not where might I be able to get this belt?

Thanks

Mike

1999 RC Auto 5.2L
Flowmaster 40 series, Homemade CAI, Shift Kit

Track Times: 60' - 2.188
1/8 - 9.75 @71 mph
1/4 -15.42 @ 88 mph

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1/21/2005
12:55:27

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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Mikes99Dakota, Not sure where to buy one in your
area but Dayco is a huge manufacture and you
shouldn't have a hard time finding one. I think
checker auto. is the same as kragen auto. and
that's where i bought mine. Heres the belt name
and number "Dayco Poly-Cog" # 5070973 this belt
fit's my 99'5.2 with a/c and power steering, call
around to some auto. supplys you'll find one I'm
sure. This belt will cure your noise (unless you
have a weak tensioner) guranteed ! I know because
you said you sprayed wd-40 on it and the noise
went away, same exact thing mine would do. More
than likely your tensioner and pullys are o.k.,
once you remove your old belt you can check all
pullys and tensioner. Don't forget to draw belt
routing diagram before you remove your old one.
-Mike
99' Sport 4X4 EXC. 5.2 AUTO.
Homemade Ram-Air/cold air 4" intake.
K N Drop in filter.
MSD Blaster coil.
TBS set to .76 volts.
Relocated IAS.
3923's plugs.
Black Magic 150 Fan. (soon to be Extreme 180)
5-30 Mobil 1 / Napa spin-flow filter.
Magna-Flow 3" Straight Thru Single side dump exhaust.
31 x 10.50 Pro-comp All terrain's on American
Eagle 15x8" one peice alluminun alloy's.








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7/21/2005
20:51:20

RE: Belt Squealing BAD!! on 99' 5.2L
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We have a 2002 Dakota QuadCab 4X4 52,000 miles and the tension belt has been tightened once by the dealership because it was making a raddle noise. My husband noticed it doing it again a few days later and so we both took a look under the hood we both saw the tensioner shake. I hope I'm correct on the part (Its where the belt rests while spinning). It especially does it when he puts it in drive. Anyhow we take it back to the dealership and never got a call all day until before closing to tell us that it was ready. We get there and they informed us that we had a small exaust leak on the left side near the manifold and that they had to tighten our manifold bolts because they were LOOSE%&!!!. I HATE,HATE,HATE the dealership. I feel like their the buzzards and were the meat waggon. What the heck is wrong with this truck now. and by the way our 12volt in the armrest compartment between the seats went out so we looked for the fuse box and found nothin. We take to the dealership and find out $50 later that it was the fuse and that we wouldn't have found it because the manual doesn't state that it's in the fuse box under the hood. He told the us that the manual is wrong. So we get reamed for a $50 (typo) diagnostic fee.



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7/23/2005
08:27:10

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dakotagal, time to find a new dealer.



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