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Perry Lemmons
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1/25/2003
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Subject: Water in the oil fill tube!
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I have an 01 4.7 and just found that dreaded milky sh** on the inside of plastic oil fill tube. I'm hoping someone has seen this before and will tell something different than what I'm thinking. Please help!

Also (and I'm not sure if it's related or not) I have developed an intermittent sound under the hood that ressembles a slipping belt. I replaced the belt but still there. It only seems to do it when I'm at a "steady" throttle position when driving. I sure am hoping for some help...Thanks!




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1/25/2003
18:06:43

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DC has issued a TSB on this, and the fix for the problem was to place a removable baffle in the oil filler neck that basically just hides the snot. Long story short, problem has to do with different cooling rates between the aluminum head, magnesium valve cover, and plastic filler tube, combined normal emulsification Some folks have reported the problem disappears with the a switch to synthetic oil (worked in my '03), and others that the problem is minimized in warmer weather - colder air temps seem to cause it to get worse. Check your dipstick, and oil from the drain pan, as well as monitor your coolant level for unexplained loss. If nothing bad shows from these things, you're just one of the crowd. More exoerienced folks here have said this is a normal process, but that the materials used in the 4.7 and the location of the filler tube (not on valve cover) just make it more visible on the 4.7. Use the search feature to find more technical poop from the pros here.



Perry Lemmons
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1/25/2003
18:14:39

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Thanks ScottE

Yeah...since I posted this question I found a few related subjects. I just found this site cause this was the first time since buying the dakota that I ever had a reason to look. It has been cold lately here! And I'll also try the synthetic oil thing. Thanks for your reply.



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1/26/2003
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ive seen this on my 93, but not my 2000. mostly i feel its the short drive to work that does it ,its only 36km .engine dosent quite have time to get to operating temp when its shut down again



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3/08/2004
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I have a 96 Dakota, 5.2L, Automatic. I've been thinking about installing a B&M or Hurst floor shifter, but I can't seem to find out the model of my transmission. Does anyone have a clue? I've pressure washed the tranny but I still cannot find any numbers.



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3/08/2004
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A search helps. It is not your oil. It's your 4.7

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v8/2896.html

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v8/3577.html

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/9834.html




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3/08/2004
09:03:28

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The TSB on this involves a new cover & baffle.

ACCUMULATION OF FOAMY OIL EMULSION 4.7L ENGINE OIL FILL HOUSING

Date: 09/11/00 (02/00)

Bulletin # 090100A (supercedes 090100)

Model year(s): 1999-2000

Description: A customer may complain of an oil emulsion accumulation inside the engine oil fill housing. The oil emulsion will normally be foamy and be gray or light brown in color. The emulsion accumulation will often occur on cooler engine surfaces, like the inside of the oil fill housing. Modern engine oils are designed to address the oil emulsion phenomenon. Oil emulsion accumulation is normal and will not damage the engine A new baffle and a revised oil fill housing cap have been released. The baffle and oil cap will help to reduce the amount of oil emulsion accumulation within the oil fill housing.

Details: If the customer has experienced this issue, then perform the Repair Procedure.

Parts required:
53032126AA Baffle, Oil Fill Housing
53032389AC Cap, Oil Fill Housing
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D/C just installs a baffle to hide it from customers eye.

I would go on record as it being only condensation. The fill neck is elevated off the valve cover and is generally the "high" point in the oil system. The heated condensation in the engine rises to the high point, which tends to run cooler since it is elevated over the valve cover, has airflow over it, and is not generating any heat. Thats where it ends up as the milky white fluid.

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11/28/2007
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I think we have all had this prob with our4.7's



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11/28/2007
16:36:11

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I never did, and still Don't, 01, 4.7.



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11/28/2007
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I never did and still dont 02 4.7 over 100,000 miles now
seems like you was just looking for a reason to bump a amsoil post Stan or brad rather

plain old Valvoline and napa filters for me



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11/28/2007
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I occasionaly see it in my 2000 4.7 liter, mainly when it is cold out, and making short trips.

Just change your oil and filter regularly and don't worry about it.



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11/28/2007
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You'll most likely see this if you live/drive in a colder climate and do many short trips that never get the engine properly warmed up.

I've pretty much eliminated the problem by wrapping many layers of metalic insulation tape
around the plastic oil fill tube, haven't seen the 'milkshake' since.

Dino or synthetic oil has nothing to do with it,
as explained, it's does that because of the filler tube's location and function (pcv valve air flow, hot oil fumes pass thru the plastic tube which is always much cooler than the rest of the engine)




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11/28/2007
21:09:03

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never 4 me either

01 4.7 over 110,000 miles


QS 4x4 & napa filter allways




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11/28/2007
21:11:31

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no idea what you guys are talking about

03 4.7 99,700

maxlife and fram filters

not once seen any symptoms as you guys are talking



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11/28/2007
21:12:39

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that wasnt even a real post
it was the crazy scamsoil guy just spamming as usual



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11/28/2007
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that fugures



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11/28/2007
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spam ?
owww boy!
spam and egss !

whois making the home fries



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i love spam and eggs



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11/28/2007
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i'll make the home fries



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i'll make the toast



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i want wheat toast



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