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bigb7000
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1/26/2004
14:26:48

Subject: Autolite Platinum AP5224
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Ok, I have been running the 3923 but want to try the 5224 instead. The truck runs ok but I still feel that it ran better with champion plugs so I figured I would try the Autolite Platinum stock heat and see how it reacts. One reason is there seems to be a spot in the idle that sounds off I am by no means a mechanic but gut says fouled plug... So instead of just cleaning and letting it go why not some different plugs. Also I have a question on the smell of my exhaust. It seems to have gotten a little worse, stinky and was wondering is that an indicator of something. Just smells like normal exhaust just strong I guess.

Thanks in advance,
BigB



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1/26/2004
15:19:14

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Go to page 75. They have a subject named Time for a tune up, dated 05/13/03.

I personally suggest you to use the regular 5224. or the factory Champion RC12LC4.

Rene from PR



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1/26/2004
15:50:58

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I agree rene...the champion plugs are meant for the truck and really no other unless the truck is moddified.



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1/26/2004
16:04:49

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Ok, I have a new high flow cat (car sound) and Magnaflow muffler... Also changed the t-stat to 180degree and new Borg Warner Cap/rotor and JBA 9mm plug wires...

Want to upgrade the Throttle body soon...



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1/26/2004
16:25:37

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I have the JBA, the 180 t-stat and the msd coil. The rest of it is stock. I keep my Champion. I have tried the APP5224. They didnt work well.

The TB upgrade is a great one. This is my next move as well.

Rene from PR



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1/26/2004
16:52:42

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I have the AP5224 not the APP5224... I have heard the double platinum plugs are not the best for our 3.9... I will give the regular platinum's a chance and give some feedback...



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1/26/2004
17:05:14

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Go for it!! Please give some feed back after some time of use. My Dakota is 2003 4x4. What year is yours?

Rene from PR



bigb7000
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1/26/2004
17:24:33

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97 CC... just over 100K...



J and J Auto
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1/26/2004
17:37:44

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Yes don't use the APP double platinum just the AP
and gap them .005 over factory specs.

The reason the APP's did not run well is because
the spark was to hot do to the less resistance the
platinum takes to fire over std chrome nickel

The Autolite and Champ plugs are both copper core
that is what mopar talks about in there tech articles
The solid copper core will transfer the heat from the
tip quicker and avoid a hot spot that can cause
detonation

The extended tip 52 series plug will run about a half
heat range cooler do to the incoming charge cooling
the tip better and will have better off idle and low end
response over the 39 series. The extended tip in the
champ is what mopar calls the truck plug, it solves
hesitation and detonation problems and if you complain
about any of these symptoms mopar will install the
truck plug and in most trucks it solves the problem

Use the AP5224 and gap them .040 or .045 and they will
run great

Larry
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Rene
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1/26/2004
23:12:06

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Larry,

Thanks!!!



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1/27/2004
13:24:08

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A bit off topic but does the JBA wires fit an '02 with the metal plug heat shields?



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1/27/2004
13:35:58

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What about using the AP5223's. Would they be better than the 24's?



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1/27/2004
13:42:03

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My JBA are 8 mm and they fit well. Don't know about AP5223. Maybe Larry can anwser that one



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1/27/2004
20:12:28

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AP5223

no such animal they do not make a 5223 nor does
champ make the extended tip LC4 in 11 1 range
cooler

Larry
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1/28/2004
00:14:44

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okies gang, i called MSD to find out if their coil would work on a 2000Kota 3.9...Tech dude says it wont work due to different wire hookups, but Accell makes a wire that can be used to hook the older coil design to the newer harness..I cant find this damned wire anywhere...I called Accel and asked thier tech guy, but i swear i got a newbie...gut feeling is he didnt even know what a coil was! Can anyone help?
180stat,Gibson cat-back, 3923's,K&N drop-in,MSD 8.5 Wires..Soon to add Amsoil, and looking forward to a SuperChips Programmer...(you guys that did the mass buy, has anyone hooked up yet?, run any better or worse?)



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1/28/2004
00:27:01

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Well I got a 2000 DAK..3.9 and I have a full MSD system.Ignition-wires-coil-.
I'm using the 8228 coil.just needed to make a connector for the coil..90 cents at radio shack..
I think a lot of guys are using the Blaster SS coil.Works good..

Just with the MSD set up you may need to get the Tach adapter for it.8910 part #


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1/28/2004
13:14:33

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I thought that I had read somewhere about the 5223's but guess not. If the 5223's are not out there then what is made that is one range cooler than the 5224's other than the 3923's?



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1/28/2004
13:26:10

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You can go 1 range cooler with a champ plug

11 instead of 12 but its not the truck plug just
the reg but they also run fine in these motors

I beleave the LC4 in champ is made in a 10 but 2
ranges colder may not run good at low speeds

Larry
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bigb7000
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2/06/2004
16:32:13

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Ok, been a few hundred miles so far and the plugs are doing great. Still not long enough to tell gas mileage but the idle is sitting a little higher and good power that seems even through out the rpm range...



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2/06/2004
18:26:40

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I am glad to here this. I am getting the Super chip Micro tuner. I guess it will be a good time to try out the AP5224. Thanks for the feed back.




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2/07/2004
06:21:09

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bigB7000

your spark plugs do not determine your idle speed the PCM does. Any change you think you see is mental not physical.



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