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Vic Morris
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5/30/2002
01:54:16

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I want to do a lift to my '97 Club Cab SLT 4x4. I've been considering a suspension lift and was wondering what to go with. I read the posts from Knobbyman about the Truckin' lift, I was gonna go with their 6.5 or 4.5 but I doubt it. I off-road a little, nothing too much, just a little climbing and splashin' a few puddles on the way to fishing trips. Will a 6.5 suspension lift affect that? Also, if Truckin' isn't a good source, who would be better to go with?



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5/30/2002
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Vic Truckin' has NEVER SEEN any other Dakota other then the red 2000 that they made that 6.5" lift for.

If you are seriously considering this lift.. don't say I didn't warn you. My truck is STILL broken. Anyway. Advice.. Wait till you talk to someone else that has a 1997 suspension lifted 6.5" from Truckin' Suspension Truck and ask for pictures of the Lift on the truck. Look at if it at all possible. Also Don't buy the lift from them. Get a RESPECTIABLE SHOP!! (I can't emphasize that point enough) to buy the lift from Truckin' and install it. That way that shop has to deal with them and you don't. You just have to deal with the shop.

Be ready to have your truck down for 3+ months. Because that's where I am right now.


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4wDakota
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5/30/2002
09:19:06

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Your truck is a 97, then buy a 3" rancho or 5.5" Tuff Country. Those have been proven to hold up pretty well. The Rancho can be cranked to 4" and the Tuff Country to 6"

Corey

98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD

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5/30/2002
11:49:49

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Good point 4wDakota .. Get the 5.5" Tuff Country & the 3" Body lift.. That'll put you way up in the air.

And all those parts have been tried & true.

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Vic Morris
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5/30/2002
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I appreciate the help guys, I had been looking at the Tuff Country lift but wasn't too sure about what to go with. I don't know about the body lift though. For now I think I'll go with the suspension lift and see what happens from there.



papa smurf
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5/30/2002
20:40:43

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The Tuff Country lift is very nice. I have had it on my truck for about a month now and no real complaints. I do very stongly suggest getting a custom front skid plate made and removing the sway bar anytime you go offroad. I made the mistake of forgetting the sway bar and bent it in a weird angle and now I am trying to find a new one or at least a way to bend and weld the old one back. If you want some pictures I can send them to you just give me you e-mail address. My pics should be added to the readers rides section soon.



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6/15/2002
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Hey man, I have a 98 dodge dakota ext cab witha 3 inch perfomance accessories body lift, and just got a truckn suspension6.5 lift custom made for it, and professionally installed by the guys at their shop...and it is freakin awesome. Pics on the way. they did an awesome job. The kit is a good investment, they didnt charge me labor, and with tax and everything, the kit(installed)was $1503. So personally, I think its a good investment, and man am I sittin up high. Pics to come later.




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6/15/2002
13:27:15

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Who'd you go through to get the lift custom made?




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6/15/2002
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something smells fishy here if the shop custom mad you the lift and put it on for free that just sounds a little akward cauce those shops are out there to make money but i guess with the right connections anything is possible





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6/16/2002
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No ya see, Ian and the gang at Truckin suspension want to sponsor my truck, so they sold me the lift for my 98 dak, and offered free installation and a %20 discount. they installed it themselves



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6/16/2002
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O lord.. Ian again..

Have you taken your truck off-road yet?

Put it into 4x4 low .. turn your wheels to the right.. and give it some gas.. See if everything stays together. Also check to see if your ball-joint seals are split or not.

Did they use blocks, add-a-leafs, or shackles? For the rear..

Did they lenghten your drive shaft any or change the angles?

Pictures would be very helpful... Who knows maybe they got there act together.... But I doubt it.

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Ian
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6/17/2002
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Yeah the kits have been redesigned. All driveline angles have been corrected with new hangers for the front and rear of the rear springs, new differential drop brakets and redesigned upper a arm drop brackets. We have eliminated the upper a arm support with heims joints and designed much stronger support brackets for the front of the upper a arms.

The kits for the worm and sector steering Daks are complete also. Look for more pictures soon on our web page, www.TruckinSuspension.com. We are adding a site for people with our kits installed to post their pics and descriptions of their trucks.

-Ian



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6/17/2002
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i have a question for you ian. i am a private business owner and to have one of my customers tell everyone on the internet not to buy my product cause it's crap would absolutely bug me. then you not only say you have redesigned the system because it wasn't right before and then you don't even bring up fixing the older kit. "knobbyman" is telling everyone you and your company is for sh*t and you just ignore it? i'm new to this forum and already can pretty much promise you i will never buy your products just because of this. so if this is the case how do you think you are going to get new business? do you think relying on new unsuspecting suckers is a viable and ethical way to do business?
i know if i were in your case i would contact this gentleman as soon as possible and make right what has obviously been done wrong. i pride myself on my good name and reputation, it's too bad not everyone feels this way.

ian187

post script- bad word of mouth travels ten times faster than good.




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6/17/2002
22:46:38

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umm...just a question Ian...If you willingly admit that the suspension lift you sold Knobby had alignment and bracketry issues, why didn't you at least compensate him for the P.O.S. lift that you sold him? I mean after all you used his truck to correct the shortcomings of the lift? That must be part of truckin-suspensions policy of great customer service...screw whoever you can to get the product out there. It would be one thing to f*ck up a truck fitting the prototype lift and then fixing any problems that were created in the process...taking responsability...and another to f*ck up a truck with a P.O.S. lift and then telling the customer to go screw themself because you got what you wanted...as in the case of Knobby. If you would have at least helped him get his truck up you wouldn't have all this bad publicity on this sight. You would have read instead "The lift truckin suspension sold me had some shortcomings with the bracketry and alignment but they personally went to great lengths to make sure my truck was free of any problems in the development process of an outstanding lift to come for our Dakotas. These guys are great." But now you scumbags have revealed your true colors. You must be a freakin idiot to screw with someone as active on these boards as Knobby. If you would have went about it the right way you could have smelled like roses, but now you smell like sh*t. And another thing, if someone offered me a lift at 20% off and personally installed it to ensure no more bad publicity could be created I would speak good of the company too...its called sponsership...but the truth is that no one else has posted any good things about this company...hmm, thats strange...as far as I'm concerned bigdakota is a working to denounce everything that knobby went through...hell, thats what sponsers are supposed to do...instead, if you want some better publicity on this sight, fix knobby's truck...or we can just keep running truckin suyspensions name in the mud...your choice. While your at it, post some better evidence that the lift's problems have been aleviated. Thats all for now.


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6/17/2002
22:57:09

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Hmmm ... perfect the kit before it goes into production. Now THERE'S a concept!

It would be in your best interest as a businessman to make it right with the guys that bought your first lifts, Ian. As stated before, bad press travels 10 times further than good.

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ian1872
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6/17/2002
23:14:25

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my name is ian also, but please do not confuse me with that turd from truckin.

here's a couple quick observations, ian( from truckin): does not have any self respect or he wouldn't take abuse and would fix his mistakes; he has very poor personell which reflects directly on him(remember, an employee is an extension of you); he knows he isn't going to be in business long term; he is a flake.

the really crappy part is i'm new to this board and have picked this up only after reading posts for a few hours or so.

by the way, i'll be puting in a 3" body lift within the next few day and a full suspension lift in the next few months. too bad for you ian, you won't be getting any of my business.

ian1872



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6/18/2002
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So I don't confuse you with him and so I don't bring any further disrespect to the name Ian, the man formerly known as Ian from Truckin Suspension will now be referred to as...."SCUMBAG"

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6/18/2002
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hey...that sounds like the topic for a new thread...what should Ian from Truckin be referred to on this site? You can see my suggestion above.

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6/18/2002
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Guys.. Just to set the record alittle straight..
It's not just Ians fault. The whole company has issues like this. The only reason I used Ians name only is because he is the only one over there that I had direct dealings with. This also is screwy to me... If I was suposed to help them re-design this lift and give them feedback as to what needs to change or what I'm having problems with. Why wasn't I dealing with the mechanics that built the lift?

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born2steel21
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6/18/2002
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my point exactly...since Ian is the only person to post on this site from truckin I believe that he is the mastermind behind the whole operation...I mean look back Knobby, who was recruiting people from this site to test the lift?

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6/18/2002
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Ahh, remember when... (just a little reading if anyone wants to reminisce)

Need 2000 Truck For Lift Install
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/off/535.html

Photos of the 1st lift for 2000& up
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/off/612.html


What's really goin' on?
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6/18/2002
22:46:51

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Thanks for the links DJ! That was allot of reading to catch up on! This whole thing is starting to make allot more sense now. Some saw this coming and others did not want to believe that this is where it would end up. I now understand why the body lift is just as good a option.

FXF

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6/18/2002
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hmm...I was a little off...sorry, I apologize for that...had that one confused with these threads.

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/off/732.html

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/off/782.html

As for Chris Lambart, that seemed to be an accident incited by a third party contributor (not sayin but possibly Ian). From what I understand he used to be quite a player in the Dakota community but now it seems that he has drifted away. He kinda urked me with the way he waited til the last minute to post the cancellation of the Dakota National Meet. Just figured he would be more active on these boards now.


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6/19/2002
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LOL oh.. I remember those days.. Everyone was so hopeful and READY to get this going.

Eh.. Now I can tell you this.. No ones going to make a new lift unless I'm watching what they're doing every step of the way.

GRR!! :( now I'm wondering if Daniels truck is finished or if they're still trying to figure out how to make a suspension lift.

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6/19/2002
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hey, dont say you people were not warned

--originaly posted by BEWARE--
"This company is also known as AIM and ChassisTech. Both AIM and ChassisTech make junk lifts and sell them cheap. The whole truckinsuspension is just an offspring of AIM and ChassisTech. I wouldn't install ANYTHING they make on my truck even it were free. Watch out for these products when they make it to dealers. If they are as bad as the rest of the AIM products are BEWARE!"



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6/19/2002
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Yep.. I know.. I knew ... I believed him I just wanted to give this "NEW" Company a chance.. But they held to there reputation.. That's why I've tried to warn everyone on her multiple times.

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ian1872
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6/19/2002
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so what's the verdict on the newly revised lift from them? is this just another atempt at good PR?

ian



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6/19/2002
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oh yeah...can't forget this one

http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/off/632.html

I just spent the last couple of months watching you get screwed over, Knobby. When they posted that the lifts were ready and "excellent" lifts, it kinda pissed me off. Had to vent a little on this post and I figured I'd go to bat for you at the same time. I know its not my business to get involved with you and truckin suspension because I probably don't know all the details. I just don't want anyone else to get screwed from the Dakota community ( screw the rest of the guys...j/k) and I'm just playing of what I've read and seen. I'm guessin your somewhat satisfied with the deal that they worked out with you otherwise I figure you would be much more vocal about the issues at hand. Me, I'm loud and ignorant about little things...especially when it comes to our daks.

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7/26/2002
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i was told there are no lift kits for the 02 dakotas. i want 35s under my truck real bad. can anyone help me?




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7/29/2002
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Not as of yet..

Brad there are 2 lifts available both are crap.

A solid axle swap is the only way to get 35's under there and that'll cost you at least $7,000 **by my guess**.

I'd wait for Superlift or Rancho to make a suspension lift.

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Wolf
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7/29/2002
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you can do a solid axle for way less if you can 1 do the work yourself and 2 get junkyard stuff...

but anyways i was talking to my friend Nate and he's a hard core car/trail rig junky... hes has a full size bay put on the side of his house with a full shop.. thats how much he loves this stuff.. but anyways i was talking to him about my lift idea and he was telling me he can get some part numbers from fabtech that would work on the Dak that some would need slight mods to it but others would just fit in... he also told me to check out the suspension lift for the frontier (im still trying to find the dang thing if anyone knows) but anyways it might not be the best lift out there but atleast it would be made with proven parts so if anyone is interested ill probably put the numbers and what he tells me about each part up on my site and put a link to it on the board somewhere... he also said that it wouldnt cost too much either... but his idea of not much and my idea of it are probably two differnt worlds..
Wolf



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