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9/06/2002
00:39:17

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Can anyone tell me where I can get service procceedures on adjusting auto transmission bands for the 46re, which is in my '02 Q.C. 4X4 w/5.9?
I know if I have to I can purchase a shop manual, if they are avail. for my truck. But I am hoping either some one has the info or a link for it. I do appreciate the help.




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9/06/2002
08:25:57

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it is in the Hayes(i think thats the name) manual that you can pick up at most autoparts stores.

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9/06/2002
08:39:33

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I have yet to see a Haynes manual on a 2000 or newer Dakota. I had to go buy a dealer repair manual off Ebay just to get some documentation on my 00 CC.

I checked Ebay for a 2002 but nothing listed past 2001. Check with your dealer parts deept. and see if the 2001 and 2002 used the same powertrain components because Ebay listed both complete manuals and trans only manuals for the 2001.



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9/06/2002
19:32:44

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mj, I strongly suggest that you get the DC manual from the factory. It's about $110 USD but if you work on your truck and you are going to keep it for any length of time it is by far the best wealth of info. I bought the Haynes book before I got the factory book. No comparison, it's about 5" thick full of how it works and what to do along with troubleshooting tables.

I hope I'm not to strong about it. I hope this helps.

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9/06/2002
20:10:51

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My cheerokee Asain-Warner (not sure about spelling!) trans has over 150,000 on it, still works perfect. Other than my periodic Mobil 1 changes I haven't done anything. Just what are you doing when you adjust bands and how is it done? Thank You!



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9/06/2002
20:52:36

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Try this link and get the Dodge Service Manual in paper or CD for $80.

http://www.wyckoff-mopar-parts.com/dakfacserman.html

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9/07/2002
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Thanks guys. Looks like the Chrysler shop manual is the best way to go , Since I am a mechanic by trade and I plan on keeping this beast for a long time. I'll have to hit up my friend that is the parts manager at the dealership where I bought the truck. Hey CW, thanks for the info. Being that I haven't done this preceedure before, I would like to do it by the book. Hope you understand.



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9/11/2002
09:52:52

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You should never need to adjust bands on a modern automatic transmission. Bands today are of the "wet clutch" design, with a lining thickness of about three sheets of paper. The bands operate on hydraulic friction, not mechanical. The adjustment screw is there mainly for intial setting when assembled. The band would have to be severly worn in order to require adjustment, in which case means you have other problems.



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9/11/2002
11:41:57

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The intent of my post was to find out any info on servicing my trans. I have a 25ft travel trailer that I have hauled several times so far and the trans is almost due for an oil change, so what I wanted to do at that time was perform a full service and do any adjustments that may be needed from break-in. Now, I am a Mechanic by trade, but auto transmissions is where I fall short of experience. I've done clutches and gear syncro's on Std's but oil and filter changes are the extent of my knowledge on auto's. I am also going to install a drain plug to make future oil changes a breeze.

02 QC 4X4 SLT-plus 5.9 tow



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9/11/2002
14:16:46

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On 42, 44, 46, 47, RE and RH transmissions you should always chack the band adjustment and yes they do go out weather they are supposed to or not.

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12/04/2003
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Found a great site on how to adjust transmission bands on dodge trans.

However, if your truck is not shifting funny you whould do this service. I mean long engagement from gear to gear.

http://dodgeram.org/tech/transmission/automatic/AT_band_adj.htm



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12/05/2003
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ADJUSTMENT - BANDS
FRONT BAND
The front (kickdown) band adjusting screw is located on the left side of the transmission case above the manual valve and throttle valve levers.
Raise vehicle.
Loosen band adjusting screw locknut. Then back locknut off 3-5 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in case. Apply lubricant to screw threads if necessary.
Tighten band adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 in. lbs.) torque with Inch Pound Torque Wrench C-3380-A, a 3-in. extension and an appropriate Torx socket.
Back off front band adjusting screw 2-7/8 turns.
Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 41 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.
Lower vehicle.

REAR BAND
The transmission oil pan must be removed for access to the rear band adjusting screw.
Raise vehicle.
Remove transmission oil pan and drain fluid.
Loosen band adjusting screw locknut 5-6 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in lever.
Tighten adjusting screw to 8 Nm (72 in. lbs.) torque.
Back off adjusting screw 2 turns.
Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 Nm (25 ft. lbs.) torque.
Position new gasket on oil pan and install pan on transmission. Tighten pan bolts to 13.6 Nm (125 in. lbs.) torque.
Lower vehicle and refill transmission with Mopar ATF +4, Automatic Transmission fluid.




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2/05/2004
18:49:56

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Just a follow up on my original post. Thanks STUBBS for the band adjustment info for my 46RE trans. Just did the first trans oil change w/filter and performed the adjustments to the forward and reverse bands. It was a breeze and needed. What a diff! Truck shifts sooner with a much more positive feel.

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12/09/2009
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(1) To 'Tranny Guy' who says you don't need to do adjustments: The Haynes manual for Dodge Durango & Dakota Pickupts 2000 thru 2003 says(on page 1-27) that for 42RE and 46RE tranmissions, "The transmission bands should be adjusted at the specified interval [every 37,500 miles or 30 months] when the transmission fluid and filter are being replaced (see Section 29)." I know I'm 6 years late to the party now, but everyone please take that into consideration.

(2) Too bad the manuals and the instructions above don't say what they really need to say. Between "Remove transmission oil pan and drain fluid" and "Loosen band adjusting screw locknut 5-6 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in lever", it should say "Now go wash 5 quarts of fluid off of yourself and your garage floor." LOL.



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12/09/2009
19:33:33

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Wow, didnt know this website still exsisted! Um..I have been doing band adjustments at every atf change. Its a no brainer now. I have done it several times now and tranny has been operating flawlessly because of it. Now here is what I do that makes the job less of a mess. If you have or can get an old 12volt fuel pump for carburated motors with a hard nylon hose small enough and long enough to go inside the trans dipstick tube to the bottom of pan. Then put a reg. fuel hose on the discharge side of the pump that will fit into a 1 gal plastic jug. Use two lengths of wires with aligator clips long enough to reach pos.& neg terminal post of the battery. Wholla! You have an portable fluid evacuation pump. Run the thing till you start sucking air and you now can remove the oil pan without the gushing mess all over the place!! Life is good, dont waste it.



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12/10/2009
11:36:18

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You could install or buy a pan with a drain plug.

Quicker & Easier

Wholla



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12/10/2009
19:44:32

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Uuh. yeah. ok. sure. I have more than 1 vehicle that I use this device 4. And I not only use it for trannys.... smartass.



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12/14/2009
20:39:13

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"And I not only use it for trannys"

Try learning English dipsh1t



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12/16/2009
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Not "wholla", the word is voila.



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12/16/2009
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12/16/2009
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this forum is for dakota owners helping other dakota owners with their dakotas not thier spelling!! if you want to be anal about spelling, then go someware else morons!!



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